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president obama is here in charlotte. he flew in after his departure today was delayed by the weather that is bedeviling politics. one of the things that these conventions do is write the party platform-- a symbolic document that is immediately forgotten. but today the democrats made a change in their platform to make a point and nancy cordes has been following that. >> reporter: scott, it was the result of criticism from republicans who noticed that there was no mention of the word "god" in the democratic party platform and no mention of jerusalem being recognized as the capital of israel, so just a short time ago in a very unusual move, the convention chairman came out here and announced that they were adding those two items to the platform despite some pretty loud boos from some of the delegates in this room. campaign officials say the president personally intervened here, they say he has always believed that jerusalem is the capital of israel but obviously, scott, this was an a kind of embarrassing episode they're try
president obama is here in charlotte. he flew in after his departure today was delayed by the weather that is bedeviling politics. one of the things that these conventions do is write the party platform-- a symbolic document that is immediately forgotten. but today the democrats made a change in their platform to make a point and nancy cordes has been following that. >> reporter: scott, it was the result of criticism from republicans who noticed that there was no mention of the word...
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president obama leading the way. and when the lobbyists were closing in for the kill, barack obama squared his shoulders, planted his feet and stood firm and that is how we won. [ cheers and applause ] >> by the way, just a few weeks ago, that little agency caught one of the biggest credit card companies cheating its customers and made it give people back every penny it took, plus millions of dollars -- [ cheers and applause ] >> president obama beliefs in a level playing field. he believes in a country where nobody gets a free ride or a golden parachute, a country where anyone who has a great idea and rolls up their sleeves has a chance to build a business and anyone who works hard can build some security and raise a family. president obama believes in a country where billionaires pay their taxes just like their secretaries do. and i can't believe i have to say this in 2012. a country where women get equal pay for equal work. he believes in a country where everyone is held accountable, where no one can -- on main st
president obama leading the way. and when the lobbyists were closing in for the kill, barack obama squared his shoulders, planted his feet and stood firm and that is how we won. [ cheers and applause ] >> by the way, just a few weeks ago, that little agency caught one of the biggest credit card companies cheating its customers and made it give people back every penny it took, plus millions of dollars -- [ cheers and applause ] >> president obama beliefs in a level playing field. he...
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president obama: i'm barack obama and... i approve this message. >>> this morning, police in los angeles are searching for two suspects in a very unusual bank robbery. as bill whitaker report, the robbers got the money without ever going inside. >> it was not your garden variety stick-up. the bank's manager says she was kidnapped by two masked men at her home. they strapped what they told her was a bomb around her waist and demanded she rob her own bank. >> the suspects gave her a device, forced her to wear a device which she believed to be an explosive device and gave her instruction toss retrieve cash from the bank and then, in turn, pass it out to the suspects who were waiting outside. >> in fear for her life, a woman entered the bank before opening and bagged up money from the vault. as the robbers sped away, employees quickly called the bomb squad. >> when sheriffs bomb squad arrived, they calmed the woman and they very carefully removed the device from the woman's body. >> the device was sandbag outside the bank and hu
president obama: i'm barack obama and... i approve this message. >>> this morning, police in los angeles are searching for two suspects in a very unusual bank robbery. as bill whitaker report, the robbers got the money without ever going inside. >> it was not your garden variety stick-up. the bank's manager says she was kidnapped by two masked men at her home. they strapped what they told her was a bomb around her waist and demanded she rob her own bank. >> the suspects...
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obama! >> you have my permission to-- (cheers and applause) >> stephen: yeah! whoo! whoo!
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michelle obama tells voters. the president knows what they're going through. >> former president bill clinton takes center stage to make his case for re-electing president obama. >>> gunfire erupts as a politician takes the stage during an election night rally. we'll introduce you to the nfl's most interesting han. >>> we begin with a look at today's eye-opener. your world in 90 seconds. >>> i have seen firsthand that being president doesn't change who you are. no, it reveals who you are. >> the first lady makes a personal pitch at the democratic national convention. >> for barack, success isn't about how much money you make. it's about the difference you make in people's lives. >> julian castro, the mayor of san antonio gave the keynote address. >> we all understand that freedom isn't free. what romney and ryan don't understand is that neither is opportunity. >> nascar is a metaphor for the democratic party. everyone else is just here waiting for them to flame out in a giant wreck. >> one of the seal team 6 memb
michelle obama tells voters. the president knows what they're going through. >> former president bill clinton takes center stage to make his case for re-electing president obama. >>> gunfire erupts as a politician takes the stage during an election night rally. we'll introduce you to the nfl's most interesting han. >>> we begin with a look at today's eye-opener. your world in 90 seconds. >>> i have seen firsthand that being president doesn't change who you are....
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the lo qua shouldness of uno e dual and michelle obama who crushed it so hard republicans were desperate to change the subject. >> republicans are now blasting the democrat's platform. >> why would they remove that jerusalem should be the capital imof israel. >> the word god was gone. the one reference before, the republicans had 12 references of god. >> how there can be an entire section on faith if you don't mention god with. what do we have faith in. >> i have faith in a god without isn't so insecure he doesn't freak out if you don't mention his name enough. god is not a media figure, you know. god isn't like an inside the beltway media figure who first thing they do when they get a book is check their index for the names. god doesn't do that that is weird you mentioned trees and saving the earth but you don't mention the guy who created the whole thing, i mean, all i'm saying is whatever, guys. (laughter) that was my impression of god. (laughter) and not very good. but guess what, democrats aren't going to get sucked into that game. didn't you hear deval patrick. >> it's time for dem
the lo qua shouldness of uno e dual and michelle obama who crushed it so hard republicans were desperate to change the subject. >> republicans are now blasting the democrat's platform. >> why would they remove that jerusalem should be the capital imof israel. >> the word god was gone. the one reference before, the republicans had 12 references of god. >> how there can be an entire section on faith if you don't mention god with. what do we have faith in. >> i have...
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barack obama, i'm assuming has just finished his speech accepting the nomination of the democratic party and at the end of it threw down his mike and said [bleep] all y'all. that was weird! (cheers and applause) let's begin the night with night 2 of the democratic national convention where democrats are capitalized-- the passionate populism of deval patrick. the lo qua shouldness of uno e dual and michelle obama who crushed it so hard republicans were desperate to change the subject. >> republicans are now blasting the democrat's platform. >> why would they remove that jerusalem should be the capital imof israel. >> the word god was gone. the one reference before, the republicans had 12 references of god. >> how there can be an entire section on faith if you don't mention god with. what do we have faith in. >> i have faith in a god without isn't so insecure he doesn't freak out if you don't mention his name enough. god is not a media figure, you know. god isn't like an inside the beltway media figure who first thing they do when they get a book is check their index for the names. god doe
barack obama, i'm assuming has just finished his speech accepting the nomination of the democratic party and at the end of it threw down his mike and said [bleep] all y'all. that was weird! (cheers and applause) let's begin the night with night 2 of the democratic national convention where democrats are capitalized-- the passionate populism of deval patrick. the lo qua shouldness of uno e dual and michelle obama who crushed it so hard republicans were desperate to change the subject. >>...
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president barack obama was quick to condemn the film but that did not extinguish the fewer indignation with the film led to his son nasrallah making his first public speech since two thousand and eight in front of tens of thousands supporters the leader of hezbollah has been in hiding for sixty days after a month long war with israel strollo called for mass demonstrations and announced the beginning of a global contain to hold the screening and sharing of the provoked of film his stress that the world does not understand muslims deep reverence for the prophet mohammed during in supremely the ayatollah ali khamenei also expressed his anger with the mts long film and laid the blame for it not only on the us but on israel as well. as we just heard the though everything seems to be quiet now in this robot but the turbulence sparked by the film is getting closer. to your city so are are you ready are you expecting something to happen because because before that i was here previous question you seem pretty sure that everything is calm and everything will be calm in jerusalem well you know in
president barack obama was quick to condemn the film but that did not extinguish the fewer indignation with the film led to his son nasrallah making his first public speech since two thousand and eight in front of tens of thousands supporters the leader of hezbollah has been in hiding for sixty days after a month long war with israel strollo called for mass demonstrations and announced the beginning of a global contain to hold the screening and sharing of the provoked of film his stress that...
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did waves obama's to the stage of the democratic national convention. not the president but his wife to me the appeal to american voters to re- elect has been. political reporter crazily with what was set on the first day of the convention. the first lady praise for has been in tonight's speech to says he is " a man we can trust to revive the nation's weak economy as president. daniel lang and others beachball that while the democratic base. did waves democrats cheered as first lady michelle obama's took the stage at the party's national convention in charlotte. she said the white house hasn't changed her husband's character or convictions. i love that we can trust brought to do what he says he's going to do even when it's hard it is best when it's hard. she praised her husband's health care reform law. >>> he didn't care whether it was the easy thing to do politically that's not hit and how he was raised. he care that it was the right thing to do. >>> brought her speech the first lady work demands voters that her husband understands the struggles of th
did waves obama's to the stage of the democratic national convention. not the president but his wife to me the appeal to american voters to re- elect has been. political reporter crazily with what was set on the first day of the convention. the first lady praise for has been in tonight's speech to says he is " a man we can trust to revive the nation's weak economy as president. daniel lang and others beachball that while the democratic base. did waves democrats cheered as first lady...
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vote for president obama. i'm lauren green, now back to greta. >> your news president could be a man, who stands by one of public figures tries to silence a private citizen. with hateful slurs. a man who won stand for those slurs or negative voices in his own party. we know what this america would like like. and in a few short months that is the america we could be. but that is not the america that we should be. and it's not who we are. >> that was the georgetown law school graduate who landed in the middle of the nation's contraceptive debate. and now, the controversy over insurance coverage of birth control. our political panel is here. there is amy stod yard and let's go to amy stod yard. is there a war or women? >> i don't know but democrats have been talking about it six months or more since the primary republican primary in the winter when rick santorum shook the rhetoric off the deep end about contraception and started what was a big broad narrative for democrats that now extended the definition of clas
vote for president obama. i'm lauren green, now back to greta. >> your news president could be a man, who stands by one of public figures tries to silence a private citizen. with hateful slurs. a man who won stand for those slurs or negative voices in his own party. we know what this america would like like. and in a few short months that is the america we could be. but that is not the america that we should be. and it's not who we are. >> that was the georgetown law school graduate...
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obama. he controls the weather. i mean we should have known, all black people can control the weather. (applause) very informative documentary, by the way. it's where i learned that bald people can implant thoughts in your mind. out of my head, carville. i don't want to picture mary matalin like that. oh, oh-- oh, she worked out. folks, speaking of mind control, bill clinton gave a speech last night scheduled for half an hour which just wrapped up a few minutes ago. (laughter) and i would add hit clinton started strong. >> we are here to nominate a president. (cheers and applause) and i've got one in mind. >> stephen: unfortunately, barack obama defeated her four years ago. (laughter) luckily, luckily bill had another option. >> i want to nominate a man who is cool on the outside. >> (cheers and applause) but who burns for america on the inside. (cheers and applause) >> cool on the outside, burns on the inside. now at first i was excited because i thought the democrats had nominated a half microwave burrito. sadly,
obama. he controls the weather. i mean we should have known, all black people can control the weather. (applause) very informative documentary, by the way. it's where i learned that bald people can implant thoughts in your mind. out of my head, carville. i don't want to picture mary matalin like that. oh, oh-- oh, she worked out. folks, speaking of mind control, bill clinton gave a speech last night scheduled for half an hour which just wrapped up a few minutes ago. (laughter) and i would add...
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and will pledge support for obama. with us spend more money than any president ever with the largest deficit and largest that ever. largest federal government in our history. we take that up with the author of the amateur, ed klein, and lanny davis what his former boss must accomplish if obama is to be reelected. clinton has been one of his top surrogates and fund-raisers. but tonight he takes on the mantle of champion. >> this is a clear choice. the republican plan is to cut taxes going back to deregulation. president obama has a plan investing in education, job training and it only works if there is a strong middle-class. that is what happened when i was president. lou: you would think they have been friends throughout , but not so. the same man who told "the new york times" after the debt ceiling debate quote mack i am really trying to help him, but he seems to have lost his narrative narrative" -- " that is tame compared to the language used in the 2008 democratic primary as his of frequent targets in 2007 said we
and will pledge support for obama. with us spend more money than any president ever with the largest deficit and largest that ever. largest federal government in our history. we take that up with the author of the amateur, ed klein, and lanny davis what his former boss must accomplish if obama is to be reelected. clinton has been one of his top surrogates and fund-raisers. but tonight he takes on the mantle of champion. >> this is a clear choice. the republican plan is to cut taxes going...
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so having a president like barack obama who understands that cities really do drive our economy, has allowed us to get a much greater share and distribution of resources. seats a matter to our bottom line. every single mayor that is sitting here right now has a budget that is stronger because of the direct support of this administration. it makes a huge difference. >> woodruff: how do you answer that question? >> i agree. i've said many times eye get asked the question a lot because i've been on the campaign trail for the president. and i'll tell you, i tell people, it matters who is in the white house and what majority is in the congress. we've got 600 million dollars in our funding from the federal government under this administration. we got more money for foreclosured homes than virtually any city in the united states of america. we were able to get a $546 million loan. this was this president and, again with the majority, the democratic majority, and then we got bipartisan support for america fast forward which i've talked to you about in the past, the surface transportation bil
so having a president like barack obama who understands that cities really do drive our economy, has allowed us to get a much greater share and distribution of resources. seats a matter to our bottom line. every single mayor that is sitting here right now has a budget that is stronger because of the direct support of this administration. it makes a huge difference. >> woodruff: how do you answer that question? >> i agree. i've said many times eye get asked the question a lot because...
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they wanted to ask michelle obama, when barack obama gets off the stage, what do you say to him. >> i agree with you on that one. >> and former president bill clinton spoke to the convention and earned himself front page coverage in the new york times and probably a lot of other papers, with his speech. >> and some people even, i even saw some of the conservative blogs that that photo that you just showed, was of president clinton purposely trying to hide president obama's face. >> and i believe the gentleman next to you has that theory. >> you're right. and the guy is a showman. he knows what he's doing, and he could be in the theater. i mean, he's out there and doing 50 minutes with the his heels behind the curtain and comes out and hugs him and puts his face-- they do this in the movie, the big star gets the-- >> do you think he really tried to do that. >> absolutely. >> oh, really? >> we can agree that the coverage was a bit vaunted, but there's a media and the democrats this a very, very good and strong convention. >> but i do want to say this might have been here too long or wat
they wanted to ask michelle obama, when barack obama gets off the stage, what do you say to him. >> i agree with you on that one. >> and former president bill clinton spoke to the convention and earned himself front page coverage in the new york times and probably a lot of other papers, with his speech. >> and some people even, i even saw some of the conservative blogs that that photo that you just showed, was of president clinton purposely trying to hide president obama's...
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proceeds obama. i would have to say it was fontana in. i you ready for this? eighty references to buy. ninety-six, 96 first-person references. sixteen in which he simply used to be or myself. that sort of sets the standard for what obama. >> look. bill clinton is a classic narcissist, as is barack obama. what he did so well last night, talk about himself. the most comfortable and passionate and really sort of a lapsed into that preaches cadence which she did so well when he was either talking about himself or talking about hillary are knocking the gop. but not so much when he was talking of barack obama and the concerns are not just stylistically but substantively between clinton's presidency and obama's presidency on a whole range of economic issues. it's not going to go very well for tonight and through the campaign. >> i think that is really the risk for the democratic party. if you were not undecided and listened to that speech and bill clinton talk about how he cooperated to get work for welfare
proceeds obama. i would have to say it was fontana in. i you ready for this? eighty references to buy. ninety-six, 96 first-person references. sixteen in which he simply used to be or myself. that sort of sets the standard for what obama. >> look. bill clinton is a classic narcissist, as is barack obama. what he did so well last night, talk about himself. the most comfortable and passionate and really sort of a lapsed into that preaches cadence which she did so well when he was either...
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cold war style sponsor reveals obama's troop and its content. is easy it's. easy. i had a family i lived in a fairly nice community was a rich it was an upscale it was just like you know the society ok then they started showing up what happened was.
cold war style sponsor reveals obama's troop and its content. is easy it's. easy. i had a family i lived in a fairly nice community was a rich it was an upscale it was just like you know the society ok then they started showing up what happened was.
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a week ago was september 11, and president obama asked for all flags to be lowered to honor everyone who was killed on 9/11. my friend bill wilson and i asked the political leaders of the castro to use the public property at harvey milk plaza, including the rainbow flag, to lower the rainbow flag, to first of all respect president obama's proclamation, and, second, to remember and honor a gay hero named mark bingham who lost his life in the fields of pennsylvania. for two years, gay activists have asked, demanded, and pleaded for public property at harvey milk plaza to simply lower a flag on occasion, especially when our president asks to do it. and when gay people say we want to honor mark bingham, we want petty vindictive political leadership in the castro to grow up. we want a public discussion about public property. because mark bingham would have had the flag lowered at harvey milk plaza, had harvey milk been alive. we simply want to lower a flag on city property. and after two years, we don't have that right. something must be done. >> president chiu: thank you. next speaker. >
a week ago was september 11, and president obama asked for all flags to be lowered to honor everyone who was killed on 9/11. my friend bill wilson and i asked the political leaders of the castro to use the public property at harvey milk plaza, including the rainbow flag, to lower the rainbow flag, to first of all respect president obama's proclamation, and, second, to remember and honor a gay hero named mark bingham who lost his life in the fields of pennsylvania. for two years, gay activists...
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did waves obama's to the stage of the democratic national convention. not the president but his wife to me the appeal to american voters to re- elect has been. political reporter crazily with what was set on the first day of the convention. the first lady praise for has been in tonight's speech to says he is " a man we can trust to revive the nation's weak economy as president. daniel lang and others beachball that while the democratic base. did waves democrats cheered as first lady michelle obama's took the stage at the party's national convention in charlotte. she said the white house hasn't changed her husband's character or convictions. i love that we can trust brought to do what he says he's going to do even when it's hard it is best when it's hard. she praised her husband's health care reform law. >>> he didn't care whether it was the easy thing to do politically that's not hit and how he was raised. he care that it was the right thing to do. >>> brought her speech the first lady work demands voters that her husband understands the struggles of th
did waves obama's to the stage of the democratic national convention. not the president but his wife to me the appeal to american voters to re- elect has been. political reporter crazily with what was set on the first day of the convention. the first lady praise for has been in tonight's speech to says he is " a man we can trust to revive the nation's weak economy as president. daniel lang and others beachball that while the democratic base. did waves democrats cheered as first lady...
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previously i have made statements to the board of supervisors, to the point president barack obama is a sat jan and he has made a deal with the catholic church with serious consequences to the birth -- to israel and our social security. chapter 8, exodus. and the lord spoke to moses, go to pharaoh and say to him, thus says the lord, let my people go, that they may serve me. but if you refuse to let them go, behold i will smite all your territory with frogs. so the river shall bring forth frogs abundantly which shall go up and come into your house, into your bedrooms, on your bed, into the houses of your servants, on your people, into your oftens, into your impeding bowl. and the frogs shall come up on you and all your people and all your servants. thank you. >> president chiu: thanks. next speaker. >> good afternoon. i'm peter warfield, executive director of library users association, and i want to talk about who supports the bernal heights branch library mural being refreshed. we recently had a rally, actually on sunday for the refreshment of the mural. there was good coverage from t
previously i have made statements to the board of supervisors, to the point president barack obama is a sat jan and he has made a deal with the catholic church with serious consequences to the birth -- to israel and our social security. chapter 8, exodus. and the lord spoke to moses, go to pharaoh and say to him, thus says the lord, let my people go, that they may serve me. but if you refuse to let them go, behold i will smite all your territory with frogs. so the river shall bring forth frogs...
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bill clinton makes the case for barack obama's reelection better than barack obama does. clinton is the best simplifier and best explainer in the business. and he just knocked down republican policy points from a democratic perspective. and he built the case for barack obama. he said... look. no president, not me, no other president could have gotten us out of this hole in just four years. and i thought waits very effective, kind of long speech. >> kind of long but that is always a little bit kind of long. amy? >> well, he said no president, none of-none of my predecessor koz have undid damage in just four years. he said he believed witness all of his heart. a agree if barack obama had sat down to write the speech he wanted bill clinton to deliver to endors him, he wouldn't have written a better one. he went over every republican tack rebutting nem detail. he also told these democrats in this hall and kept referring to people watching at home that these where the same economic policies he governed with just in a different set of circumstances. he said i remember when they
bill clinton makes the case for barack obama's reelection better than barack obama does. clinton is the best simplifier and best explainer in the business. and he just knocked down republican policy points from a democratic perspective. and he built the case for barack obama. he said... look. no president, not me, no other president could have gotten us out of this hole in just four years. and i thought waits very effective, kind of long speech. >> kind of long but that is always a little...
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milk plaza, including the rainbow flag, to lower the rainbow flag, to first of all respect president obama's proclamation, and, second, to remember and honor a gay hero named mark bingham who lost his life in the fields of pennsylvania. for two years, gay activists have asked, demanded, and pleaded for public property at harvey milk plaza to simply lower a flag on occasion, especially when our president asks to do it. and when gay people say we want to honor mark bingham, we want petty vindictive political leadership in the castro to grow up. we want a public discussion about public property. because mark bingham would have had the flag lowered at harvey milk plaza, had harvey milk been alive. we simply want to lower a flag on city property. and after two years, we don't have that right. something must be done. >> president chiu: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. my name is carolyn calderÓn. i work for the -- housing program of the veterans equity center. i'm here today opposing supervisor scott wiener's efforts to change the city's existing building code to reduce the minimum liv
milk plaza, including the rainbow flag, to lower the rainbow flag, to first of all respect president obama's proclamation, and, second, to remember and honor a gay hero named mark bingham who lost his life in the fields of pennsylvania. for two years, gay activists have asked, demanded, and pleaded for public property at harvey milk plaza to simply lower a flag on occasion, especially when our president asks to do it. and when gay people say we want to honor mark bingham, we want petty...
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and why we shouldn't reelect president obama . what are those reasons and all 10 of them and a couple of them that come to mind. i think he tried his best. i don't think he was malicious in how he governs. it is just that it is right way . he's not been successful. he said in his speech i will get one million job in the next four year. we have 23 million people unemployed and they are demdeps and independent and republicans. i am saying to the demdeps, you need to search your heart. do you want another four years of a man, not and forget aboutc. that has not had the experience to gov yern govern another four years. and if there was an important issue. and everything else in the election. why we shouldn't vote for barack obama. >> yoed the experience. we will have u.s. supreme court justices retiring. and that means obama will be putting in more liberal u.s. justices . i think that is going to epardize our constitution. and they will eliminate gun control in our country. and so this is what i am extremely worried about, mike. if ob
and why we shouldn't reelect president obama . what are those reasons and all 10 of them and a couple of them that come to mind. i think he tried his best. i don't think he was malicious in how he governs. it is just that it is right way . he's not been successful. he said in his speech i will get one million job in the next four year. we have 23 million people unemployed and they are demdeps and independent and republicans. i am saying to the demdeps, you need to search your heart. do you want...
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there is a sizable anti-obama movement in the country, and when obama cut into that feeling, it boosts him and since romney -- - nks romney. >> one of clinton's lines really hit home. the amount of hate that republicans have for barack obama is just astounding. it is not just political differences. it is really rock, visceral h ate. and you hear it week after week, day after day, moment after moment through the foxxrowd. >> that is complete rubbish. i've not heard one republican use the language that the leader of the california delegationnnn used in describing paul ryan as the goebbels of our time, as a nazi. he had to excuse himself and return home because of a previously scheduled root canal. >> if you are attempting to say that you have not heard a visceral hatred spread for barack obama, then we just -- maybe i will stop the show. >> let's not, just to be nice to me. the first lady wins rave reviews, but not for everyone. >> when you work hard and have done well and go through the doorway of opportunity, you do not slam it shut behind you. >> i thought michelle obama did an enormo
there is a sizable anti-obama movement in the country, and when obama cut into that feeling, it boosts him and since romney -- - nks romney. >> one of clinton's lines really hit home. the amount of hate that republicans have for barack obama is just astounding. it is not just political differences. it is really rock, visceral h ate. and you hear it week after week, day after day, moment after moment through the foxxrowd. >> that is complete rubbish. i've not heard one republican use...